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		<title>By: HURFDURF</title>
		<link>http://blogs.artvoice.com/techvoice/2008/09/18/follow-up-analysis-of-palin-e-mail-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-146</link>
		<dc:creator>HURFDURF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So it was some democrat state rep&#039;s kid?  Fuck it.  Imma move to Canada.</description>
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		<title>By: HURFDURF</title>
		<link>http://blogs.artvoice.com/techvoice/2008/09/18/follow-up-analysis-of-palin-e-mail-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-145</link>
		<dc:creator>HURFDURF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HUUURRRR WE IZ ONONYMUS LEGION DUUURRR WE HAXZORZ MAJOR SHITZ...  What the fuck ever.  I&#039;m reasonably convinced it was probably someone from the McCain campaign trying to stir up support for the ignorant masses in order to fight against net neutrality and get a bunch more retards to believe that they need to give up some more constitutional rights.  CYBOTURRRISTZ_ZOMG??!!!! WE MUST FIGHTS ITZ!!!!111  I haven&#039;t heard anything out of that asspuppet O&#039;Reilly yet but I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll start hearing him push the issue in the coming weeks.  A yahoo account with a password that simple (and I&#039;m sure it had just as easy a password recovery hint &quot;what&#039;s my favorite snack food?  teehee!!&quot; or something as such) I could give a shit who did it honestly but my money&#039;s on it being a political propaganda publicity stunt.  I just seriously doubt the Obama campaign would risk something like this and no paranoid liberal hacker is really going to believe that her YAHOO account had any kind of sensitive information in it.  It&#039;s just disgusting to see these assholes in the media like O&#039;Reilly have a field day with this horseshit and label all 4channers as &quot;liberals&quot; and terrorist cp fappers.  Fuck, they can&#039;t even decide what kind of porn they like. As for me, I&#039;m a moderate libertarian for fucks sake.  I could give a shit about any of those assholes on both sides of the fence.  Does anyone really expect an imageboard website that doesn&#039;t require ANY form or registration or identification of any kind that gets hundreds of thousands of hits a day from all over the world with little to no moderation (except for illegal content) to be organized?  Really?  Then I&#039;m Sarah fuckin&#039; Palin.  Just what we need in office... another asshole willing to play middle America for ignorant chumps and knee-jerk patriot suckers for their political gain.  For all it&#039;s fucking worth, I hope Obama does win. And I can&#039;t stand socialists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HUUURRRR WE IZ ONONYMUS LEGION DUUURRR WE HAXZORZ MAJOR SHITZ&#8230;  What the fuck ever.  I&#8217;m reasonably convinced it was probably someone from the McCain campaign trying to stir up support for the ignorant masses in order to fight against net neutrality and get a bunch more retards to believe that they need to give up some more constitutional rights.  CYBOTURRRISTZ_ZOMG??!!!! WE MUST FIGHTS ITZ!!!!111  I haven&#8217;t heard anything out of that asspuppet O&#8217;Reilly yet but I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll start hearing him push the issue in the coming weeks.  A yahoo account with a password that simple (and I&#8217;m sure it had just as easy a password recovery hint &#8220;what&#8217;s my favorite snack food?  teehee!!&#8221; or something as such) I could give a shit who did it honestly but my money&#8217;s on it being a political propaganda publicity stunt.  I just seriously doubt the Obama campaign would risk something like this and no paranoid liberal hacker is really going to believe that her YAHOO account had any kind of sensitive information in it.  It&#8217;s just disgusting to see these assholes in the media like O&#8217;Reilly have a field day with this horseshit and label all 4channers as &#8220;liberals&#8221; and terrorist cp fappers.  Fuck, they can&#8217;t even decide what kind of porn they like. As for me, I&#8217;m a moderate libertarian for fucks sake.  I could give a shit about any of those assholes on both sides of the fence.  Does anyone really expect an imageboard website that doesn&#8217;t require ANY form or registration or identification of any kind that gets hundreds of thousands of hits a day from all over the world with little to no moderation (except for illegal content) to be organized?  Really?  Then I&#8217;m Sarah fuckin&#8217; Palin.  Just what we need in office&#8230; another asshole willing to play middle America for ignorant chumps and knee-jerk patriot suckers for their political gain.  For all it&#8217;s fucking worth, I hope Obama does win. And I can&#8217;t stand socialists.</p>
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		<title>By: lolwut</title>
		<link>http://blogs.artvoice.com/techvoice/2008/09/18/follow-up-analysis-of-palin-e-mail-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>lolwut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Olson, you&#039;re welcome to whatever opinion you want.  I just think the idea that we are getting paid at all for what we do (other than in laughter) is hilarious.  How would that work?  Explain it to me :-)

Also... WarToads lurk moar.  Thank God all the garbage about Scientology is over.  That stuff was garbage (and I know who you are cuz you&#039;re using my router... stfu) and if you keep up on it, I&#039;ll smack you in the face with a reasonably large tuna.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Olson, you&#8217;re welcome to whatever opinion you want.  I just think the idea that we are getting paid at all for what we do (other than in laughter) is hilarious.  How would that work?  Explain it to me <img src='http://blogs.artvoice.com/techvoice/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Also&#8230; WarToads lurk moar.  Thank God all the garbage about Scientology is over.  That stuff was garbage (and I know who you are cuz you&#8217;re using my router&#8230; stfu) and if you keep up on it, I&#8217;ll smack you in the face with a reasonably large tuna.</p>
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		<title>By: Terryeo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terryeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right. I&#039;ve been misguided, and I renounce Scientology. 

I always whine about Anonymous getting paid to do what they do when it was actually me, getting paid by David Miscavige (in peanuts), who wanted to get paid the millions of internet dollars. That don&#039;t exist.

Please help me. I&#039;m posting from a sub-deck level on the Freewinds and it&#039;s getting pretty stuffy down here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right. I&#8217;ve been misguided, and I renounce Scientology. </p>
<p>I always whine about Anonymous getting paid to do what they do when it was actually me, getting paid by David Miscavige (in peanuts), who wanted to get paid the millions of internet dollars. That don&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>Please help me. I&#8217;m posting from a sub-deck level on the Freewinds and it&#8217;s getting pretty stuffy down here.</p>
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		<title>By: lolwut</title>
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		<dc:creator>lolwut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Why. The last piece of anony’s message is b/s. After hacking in like a professional he insists he’s an amateur. Deception!

&gt;Anony formed up a group. Now demonstrates it can hack. Earlier demonstrated it can take down a big website (scientology).

&gt;Now Anony begins to sell its services. Why - to make money, that’s why.

Hacking like a professional?  Yes, going through a single proxy and following the preset password recovery settings is HARDCORE HACKING.  BRB I&#039;M GOING TO TAKE DOWN A BANK WITH THOSE HARDCORE HACKING SKILLS.

Or not, Palin simply made a stupid mistake in her choice of password recovery questions, a lot of stuff which is either common sense or publicly accessible.

As far as &quot;TAKING DOWN SCIENTOLOGY&quot; no.  Just no.  That was a DDoS attack which is not so much hacking as scripting, using a program to more or less say &quot;HELLO&quot; a few times a second (when spread over a few thousand people will overwhelm any server).  Anon (not Anony... where did that come from?) for the most part cannot hack.  A few of us are Computer Science people, or programmers (the meaning of hacker actually is someone who knows how computers work and how to manipulate them to do what we want), but by and far, Anon knows very little.

And... LOL... ANON WILL BEGIN TO SELL ITS SERVICES.  Yes,  you&#039;re right.  A loose conglomeration of internet fiends will all sign up for a joint bank account, trusting one another not to take the money nor call in the FBI, to sell our manpower to undertake illegal operations.

Terryeo, or should we say Terry Olson, Scientology supporter and anti-Anonymous (THEY ATTACKED MY PRECIOUS SCIENTOLOGY... BAWWWWW... WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF LORD XENU COMES BACK OR MY THETANS DON&#039;T LEAVE?!  \(-_-)/  oh noes) At least get your facts straight before you talk out of your anus.  :-D  KTHXBAI!

&gt;Tech voice you areSOOO nieve! The hacker said he wanted to “derail” her campaign. Grow up and see evil for what it is. LIBERAL

It isn&#039;t so much liberalism, and more so the chaotic anarchical structure of Anon.  We do what we want cuz we (personally, not necessarily collectively) find it amusing.  Get off of your high horse and sit down and shaddup.

&gt;All in all, these folks aren’t activists.  They’re an immature bunch (probably because most are teenagers), simply seeking attention and make mischief to get it.  Sometimes that mischief is rather high profile, like yesterday, and it gets them high profile attention.  Take one glance at their website, and you’ll see what I mean (but do so only if you’re prepared to be offended and thoroughly disgusted on every level humanly possible.  That’s NOT an exaggeration.  You’ve been warned.)

Close... but to be quite honest, we&#039;d just as well be left the hell alone.  We don&#039;t want publicity, that brings in people who think they understand our culture due to posts like this and go &quot;HURRRR LET ME POST SOME FURRY PORN!  THEY DON&#039;T HAVE THAT HERE!  OR LOL... 2GIRLS1CUP IS HILARIOUS AND NEW!!! MY HIGH SCHOOL FRIENDS JUST SHOWED IT TO ME.&quot;  Again, no.  We originally were just a bunch of college students, mostly math, science, and computer science or engineering majors who would come onto 4chan and dick around.  /b/ wasn&#039;t as active as it is now (with post counts flying higher and higher every day) and we had a more hardcore group of members.  Do not label us as attention seekers, granted some are, but that is not /b/, that is what people like YOU have made /b/ out to be and turned it into.


Please, unless you choose to &quot;lurk&quot; on our site, don&#039;t talk about our culture.  Thanks much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Why. The last piece of anony’s message is b/s. After hacking in like a professional he insists he’s an amateur. Deception!</p>
<p>&gt;Anony formed up a group. Now demonstrates it can hack. Earlier demonstrated it can take down a big website (scientology).</p>
<p>&gt;Now Anony begins to sell its services. Why &#8211; to make money, that’s why.</p>
<p>Hacking like a professional?  Yes, going through a single proxy and following the preset password recovery settings is HARDCORE HACKING.  BRB I&#8217;M GOING TO TAKE DOWN A BANK WITH THOSE HARDCORE HACKING SKILLS.</p>
<p>Or not, Palin simply made a stupid mistake in her choice of password recovery questions, a lot of stuff which is either common sense or publicly accessible.</p>
<p>As far as &#8220;TAKING DOWN SCIENTOLOGY&#8221; no.  Just no.  That was a DDoS attack which is not so much hacking as scripting, using a program to more or less say &#8220;HELLO&#8221; a few times a second (when spread over a few thousand people will overwhelm any server).  Anon (not Anony&#8230; where did that come from?) for the most part cannot hack.  A few of us are Computer Science people, or programmers (the meaning of hacker actually is someone who knows how computers work and how to manipulate them to do what we want), but by and far, Anon knows very little.</p>
<p>And&#8230; LOL&#8230; ANON WILL BEGIN TO SELL ITS SERVICES.  Yes,  you&#8217;re right.  A loose conglomeration of internet fiends will all sign up for a joint bank account, trusting one another not to take the money nor call in the FBI, to sell our manpower to undertake illegal operations.</p>
<p>Terryeo, or should we say Terry Olson, Scientology supporter and anti-Anonymous (THEY ATTACKED MY PRECIOUS SCIENTOLOGY&#8230; BAWWWWW&#8230; WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF LORD XENU COMES BACK OR MY THETANS DON&#8217;T LEAVE?!  \(-_-)/  oh noes) At least get your facts straight before you talk out of your anus.  <img src='http://blogs.artvoice.com/techvoice/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />   KTHXBAI!</p>
<p>&gt;Tech voice you areSOOO nieve! The hacker said he wanted to “derail” her campaign. Grow up and see evil for what it is. LIBERAL</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t so much liberalism, and more so the chaotic anarchical structure of Anon.  We do what we want cuz we (personally, not necessarily collectively) find it amusing.  Get off of your high horse and sit down and shaddup.</p>
<p>&gt;All in all, these folks aren’t activists.  They’re an immature bunch (probably because most are teenagers), simply seeking attention and make mischief to get it.  Sometimes that mischief is rather high profile, like yesterday, and it gets them high profile attention.  Take one glance at their website, and you’ll see what I mean (but do so only if you’re prepared to be offended and thoroughly disgusted on every level humanly possible.  That’s NOT an exaggeration.  You’ve been warned.)</p>
<p>Close&#8230; but to be quite honest, we&#8217;d just as well be left the hell alone.  We don&#8217;t want publicity, that brings in people who think they understand our culture due to posts like this and go &#8220;HURRRR LET ME POST SOME FURRY PORN!  THEY DON&#8217;T HAVE THAT HERE!  OR LOL&#8230; 2GIRLS1CUP IS HILARIOUS AND NEW!!! MY HIGH SCHOOL FRIENDS JUST SHOWED IT TO ME.&#8221;  Again, no.  We originally were just a bunch of college students, mostly math, science, and computer science or engineering majors who would come onto 4chan and dick around.  /b/ wasn&#8217;t as active as it is now (with post counts flying higher and higher every day) and we had a more hardcore group of members.  Do not label us as attention seekers, granted some are, but that is not /b/, that is what people like YOU have made /b/ out to be and turned it into.</p>
<p>Please, unless you choose to &#8220;lurk&#8221; on our site, don&#8217;t talk about our culture.  Thanks much!</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JGoodson, it&#039;s not naievity at all.  I understand what you&#039;re saying, I understand the &quot;derail statement,&quot; but its still missing the point.

Going on the general behavior of these &quot;anonymous&quot; folks, &#039;derailing a campaign&#039; isn&#039;t necessarily politically motivated.  I know that&#039;s hard to swallow.  But the idea is usually to pull these pranks at the highest levels possible, with the biggest effect possible.  Don&#039;t think for a second they wouldn&#039;t have done the same to Obama&#039;s, Biden&#039;s, Clinton&#039;s, McCain&#039;s e-mails (OK so I threw &quot;McCain&#039;s e-mail&quot; in for some humor - maybe they&#039;ll hack his Blackberry instead? :))... but it doesn&#039;t matter... anything for a big &quot;score&quot; and get everybody talking about them.  The goal isn&#039;t the &quot;derailment,&quot; but rather would have been a very effective means to get attention... they &lt;em&gt;could&lt;/em&gt; have taken credit and been known as the ones that derailed the campaign if something incriminating was in there.

But I&#039;ll also re-iterate we don&#039;t have confirmation that the account posted is even truthful in the first place.  We&#039;ll find out more I&#039;m sure when the person(s) are caught.  I can&#039;t, and don&#039;t speak for any &quot;anonymous&quot;, this is just my gut feeling after following their antics for ages now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JGoodson, it&#8217;s not naievity at all.  I understand what you&#8217;re saying, I understand the &#8220;derail statement,&#8221; but its still missing the point.</p>
<p>Going on the general behavior of these &#8220;anonymous&#8221; folks, &#8216;derailing a campaign&#8217; isn&#8217;t necessarily politically motivated.  I know that&#8217;s hard to swallow.  But the idea is usually to pull these pranks at the highest levels possible, with the biggest effect possible.  Don&#8217;t think for a second they wouldn&#8217;t have done the same to Obama&#8217;s, Biden&#8217;s, Clinton&#8217;s, McCain&#8217;s e-mails (OK so I threw &#8220;McCain&#8217;s e-mail&#8221; in for some humor &#8211; maybe they&#8217;ll hack his Blackberry instead? <img src='http://blogs.artvoice.com/techvoice/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> )&#8230; but it doesn&#8217;t matter&#8230; anything for a big &#8220;score&#8221; and get everybody talking about them.  The goal isn&#8217;t the &#8220;derailment,&#8221; but rather would have been a very effective means to get attention&#8230; they <em>could</em> have taken credit and been known as the ones that derailed the campaign if something incriminating was in there.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;ll also re-iterate we don&#8217;t have confirmation that the account posted is even truthful in the first place.  We&#8217;ll find out more I&#8217;m sure when the person(s) are caught.  I can&#8217;t, and don&#8217;t speak for any &#8220;anonymous&#8221;, this is just my gut feeling after following their antics for ages now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: i know geronimo :: good times :: September :: 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>i know geronimo :: good times :: September :: 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JGoodson</title>
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		<dc:creator>JGoodson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tech voice you areSOOO nieve! The hacker said he wanted to &quot;derail&quot; her campaign.  Grow up and see evil for what it is. LIBERAL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tech voice you areSOOO nieve! The hacker said he wanted to &#8220;derail&#8221; her campaign.  Grow up and see evil for what it is. LIBERAL</p>
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		<title>By: Terryeo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terryeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why.  The last piece of anony&#039;s message is b/s.  After hacking in like a professional he insists he&#039;s an amateur.  Deception!

Anony formed up a group.  Now demonstrates it can hack.  Earlier demonstrated it can take down a big website (scientology).

Now Anony begins to sell its services.  Why - to make money, that&#039;s why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why.  The last piece of anony&#8217;s message is b/s.  After hacking in like a professional he insists he&#8217;s an amateur.  Deception!</p>
<p>Anony formed up a group.  Now demonstrates it can hack.  Earlier demonstrated it can take down a big website (scientology).</p>
<p>Now Anony begins to sell its services.  Why &#8211; to make money, that&#8217;s why.</p>
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		<title>By: Asmononymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asmononymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meh, close enough. At least you acknowledge that Anonymous isn&#039;t really a group so much as it&#039;s just a bunch of internet people dicking around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh, close enough. At least you acknowledge that Anonymous isn&#8217;t really a group so much as it&#8217;s just a bunch of internet people dicking around.</p>
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