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		<title>By: mike hudson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2008/10/28/chasing-pigeon-the-bad-reporter/comment-page-1/#comment-3516</link>
		<dc:creator>mike hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;More on Pigeon’s bad reporting on Thursday.&quot;

NOT!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;More on Pigeon’s bad reporting on Thursday.&#8221;</p>
<p>NOT!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: mike hudson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2008/10/28/chasing-pigeon-the-bad-reporter/comment-page-1/#comment-3514</link>
		<dc:creator>mike hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 02:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks twixt...I&#039;&#039;ll alsobe appearing at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum in Cleveland at 7:30 p.m. on November 29 to read from and sign copies of my recent memoir, DIARY OF A PUNK, desribed by renowned rock critic Ira Robbins as “Riveting, rattling and detailed … full of death-defying tales, angry Cleveland brio and self-inflected disasters. It’s truly as punk as the band ever was.”

Copies of the book are available for purchase at the Hall of Fame gift shop, or may be ordered direct at the Niagara Falls Reporter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks twixt&#8230;I&#8221;ll alsobe appearing at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum in Cleveland at 7:30 p.m. on November 29 to read from and sign copies of my recent memoir, DIARY OF A PUNK, desribed by renowned rock critic Ira Robbins as “Riveting, rattling and detailed … full of death-defying tales, angry Cleveland brio and self-inflected disasters. It’s truly as punk as the band ever was.”</p>
<p>Copies of the book are available for purchase at the Hall of Fame gift shop, or may be ordered direct at the Niagara Falls Reporter!</p>
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		<title>By: Twixt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2008/10/28/chasing-pigeon-the-bad-reporter/comment-page-1/#comment-3513</link>
		<dc:creator>Twixt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am definitely going to get a copy of &quot;MOB BOSS: A BIOGRAPHY IN BLOOD!&quot;
And I suggest that after you put few excerpts in the Reporter, a few others will too.

Now those are the issues of the Reporter that you should drop into Buffalo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am definitely going to get a copy of &#8220;MOB BOSS: A BIOGRAPHY IN BLOOD!&#8221;<br />
And I suggest that after you put few excerpts in the Reporter, a few others will too.</p>
<p>Now those are the issues of the Reporter that you should drop into Buffalo!</p>
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		<title>By: mike hudson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2008/10/28/chasing-pigeon-the-bad-reporter/comment-page-1/#comment-3512</link>
		<dc:creator>mike hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And did I mention that my new book MOB BOSS: A BIOGRAPHY IN BLOOD will come out a week from Friday, on November 7, and will be available at Barnes &amp; Noble, on Amazon.com and at the finest independent bookstore in Western New York, the Book Corner on Main Street in Niagara Falls? You can even order signed copies direct through the Niagara Falls Reporter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And did I mention that my new book MOB BOSS: A BIOGRAPHY IN BLOOD will come out a week from Friday, on November 7, and will be available at Barnes &amp; Noble, on Amazon.com and at the finest independent bookstore in Western New York, the Book Corner on Main Street in Niagara Falls? You can even order signed copies direct through the Niagara Falls Reporter!</p>
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		<title>By: mike hudson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2008/10/28/chasing-pigeon-the-bad-reporter/comment-page-1/#comment-3511</link>
		<dc:creator>mike hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>funny story about coming out on tuesdays. we used to come out on thursdays like a normal weekly but david staba convinced our soon-to-be-criminally-charged former publisher that it would be better to come out on tuedays so that his riveting two-day-old buffalo bills coverage would still be &quot;fresh.&quot; it was a dumb idea, but our former publisher thought it brilliant. i wonder if david&#039;s making the same pitch to jamie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>funny story about coming out on tuesdays. we used to come out on thursdays like a normal weekly but david staba convinced our soon-to-be-criminally-charged former publisher that it would be better to come out on tuedays so that his riveting two-day-old buffalo bills coverage would still be &#8220;fresh.&#8221; it was a dumb idea, but our former publisher thought it brilliant. i wonder if david&#8217;s making the same pitch to jamie?</p>
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		<title>By: Twixt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2008/10/28/chasing-pigeon-the-bad-reporter/comment-page-1/#comment-3510</link>
		<dc:creator>Twixt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;if, as you say, “no one ever got to see an issue of the Reporter,” why are geoff kelly, bob mccarthy and alan bedenko making such a big deal out of it?&quot;

I said it because when I delivered what I thought was a giant collection, I found out that everyone else had me beat.
I&#039;m sure a few copies made it out.
I sent kelly, mccarthy and bedenko 2 copies each.

The stuff you put out was very good, it was nothing personal, but professionally speaking; you should have put it out on Fridays.

And you could remind people; &quot;there&#039;s always next time!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;if, as you say, “no one ever got to see an issue of the Reporter,” why are geoff kelly, bob mccarthy and alan bedenko making such a big deal out of it?&#8221;</p>
<p>I said it because when I delivered what I thought was a giant collection, I found out that everyone else had me beat.<br />
I&#8217;m sure a few copies made it out.<br />
I sent kelly, mccarthy and bedenko 2 copies each.</p>
<p>The stuff you put out was very good, it was nothing personal, but professionally speaking; you should have put it out on Fridays.</p>
<p>And you could remind people; &#8220;there&#8217;s always next time!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mike hudson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2008/10/28/chasing-pigeon-the-bad-reporter/comment-page-1/#comment-3509</link>
		<dc:creator>mike hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for the record...the niagara falls reporter had absolutely nothing to do with the distribution of those copies in buffalo. the customer picked up their copies at the printer and took them i don&#039;t know where. this week, our cover subject is buffalo boxer paul marinaccio and his upcoming nov. 15 title fight here in the falls. we distributed those ourselves, putting them where the proprietors of the various businesses we left them at told us to put them.

your comment is interesting though. if, as you say, &quot;no one ever got to see an issue of the Reporter,&quot; why the fuck are geoff kelly, bob mccarthy and alan bedenko making such a big goddamn deal out of it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for the record&#8230;the niagara falls reporter had absolutely nothing to do with the distribution of those copies in buffalo. the customer picked up their copies at the printer and took them i don&#8217;t know where. this week, our cover subject is buffalo boxer paul marinaccio and his upcoming nov. 15 title fight here in the falls. we distributed those ourselves, putting them where the proprietors of the various businesses we left them at told us to put them.</p>
<p>your comment is interesting though. if, as you say, &#8220;no one ever got to see an issue of the Reporter,&#8221; why the fuck are geoff kelly, bob mccarthy and alan bedenko making such a big goddamn deal out of it?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Bumble</title>
		<link>http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2008/10/28/chasing-pigeon-the-bad-reporter/comment-page-1/#comment-3508</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Bumble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Gold Medal Answer in all of this goes to NYS Assemblyman Sam Hoyt.
When asked about his victory the Assemblyman said; “If Tom Golisano would have spent $5 million on Daniel Briere or Chris Drury, we would have a Stanley Cup!” 

Hoyt stated; “His money was poorly spent.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Gold Medal Answer in all of this goes to NYS Assemblyman Sam Hoyt.<br />
When asked about his victory the Assemblyman said; “If Tom Golisano would have spent $5 million on Daniel Briere or Chris Drury, we would have a Stanley Cup!” </p>
<p>Hoyt stated; “His money was poorly spent.”</p>
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		<title>By: Twixt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2008/10/28/chasing-pigeon-the-bad-reporter/comment-page-1/#comment-3507</link>
		<dc:creator>Twixt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,
Stating the obvious;
Artvoice readers, by definition, are spectacularly well-informed!
And we don&#039;t even know what people are [or could be] thinking!
And we have never seen anything like it:

The Niagara Falls Reporter dropped thousands of copies of their paper at the local distributing points of Artvoice, the Buffalo Rocket, the Riverside Review and Hispano Panorama (Sam Hoyt&#039;s 144 Assembly District).
The Niagara Falls Reporter made their drops on Tuesdays.
The newspapers listed above begin their distributions on Wednesdays.
The newspapers simply collected the free copies of the Reporter.
That is why no one ever got to see an issue of the Reporter.
I have THOUSANDS of copies of the Reporter from those two weeks, and I don&#039;t have a relationship with any of the newspapers!

So your comment; &quot;wow! artvoice readers/writers seem spectacularly well-informed about what people they don’t even know are thinking! i’ve never seen anything like it!&quot; Is absolutely 100% correct!

Congratulations!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,<br />
Stating the obvious;<br />
Artvoice readers, by definition, are spectacularly well-informed!<br />
And we don&#8217;t even know what people are [or could be] thinking!<br />
And we have never seen anything like it:</p>
<p>The Niagara Falls Reporter dropped thousands of copies of their paper at the local distributing points of Artvoice, the Buffalo Rocket, the Riverside Review and Hispano Panorama (Sam Hoyt&#8217;s 144 Assembly District).<br />
The Niagara Falls Reporter made their drops on Tuesdays.<br />
The newspapers listed above begin their distributions on Wednesdays.<br />
The newspapers simply collected the free copies of the Reporter.<br />
That is why no one ever got to see an issue of the Reporter.<br />
I have THOUSANDS of copies of the Reporter from those two weeks, and I don&#8217;t have a relationship with any of the newspapers!</p>
<p>So your comment; &#8220;wow! artvoice readers/writers seem spectacularly well-informed about what people they don’t even know are thinking! i’ve never seen anything like it!&#8221; Is absolutely 100% correct!</p>
<p>Congratulations!</p>
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		<title>By: mike hudson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2008/10/28/chasing-pigeon-the-bad-reporter/comment-page-1/#comment-3504</link>
		<dc:creator>mike hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow! artvoice readers/writers seem spectacularly well-informed about what people they don&#039;t even know are thinking! i&#039;ve never seen anything like it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow! artvoice readers/writers seem spectacularly well-informed about what people they don&#8217;t even know are thinking! i&#8217;ve never seen anything like it!</p>
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		<title>By: Twixt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2008/10/28/chasing-pigeon-the-bad-reporter/comment-page-1/#comment-3501</link>
		<dc:creator>Twixt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone said; Goloisano pretends to be unaware of what everyone is telling him, and prepares to throw Pigeon “under the bus if the going gets rough!”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone said; Goloisano pretends to be unaware of what everyone is telling him, and prepares to throw Pigeon “under the bus if the going gets rough!”</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Bumble</title>
		<link>http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2008/10/28/chasing-pigeon-the-bad-reporter/comment-page-1/#comment-3493</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Bumble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People don&#039;t give Pigeon the credit he deserves.
Who else but Steve Pigeon could have united the Democrats and Republicans during an election cycle?
Who else but Steve Casey could have united the City?

Have these people coordinated illegally? Of course they have.
But so what?
They only people they&#039;ve managed to damage are themselves.

Our concern should be; what would happen if they ever coordinated mentally!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People don&#8217;t give Pigeon the credit he deserves.<br />
Who else but Steve Pigeon could have united the Democrats and Republicans during an election cycle?<br />
Who else but Steve Casey could have united the City?</p>
<p>Have these people coordinated illegally? Of course they have.<br />
But so what?<br />
They only people they&#8217;ve managed to damage are themselves.</p>
<p>Our concern should be; what would happen if they ever coordinated mentally!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter A Reese</title>
		<link>http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2008/10/28/chasing-pigeon-the-bad-reporter/comment-page-1/#comment-3488</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter A Reese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Golisano may be the best thing to happen to Western NY in the last several generations.   He is hated by the Partnership/Buffalo Club axis because he actually spends some of his own money on his projects.   Our other business leader pretenders always need a handout of my public money before they will attempt anything.

However, I have to question Golisano&#039;s seeming total reliance on Pigeon for his political consultation.   There is no question that the work done by the Citizens for Fiscal Integrity PAC was extremely sloppy and often haphazard.   I seriously doubt any criminal intent, but a there were way too many loose ends which never got any follow up.   (People for Accountable Government was better, but not great.)  Seems like Steve was counting on the continued negligence of the State Board of Elections in monitoring and regulating such activities.   This is an extremely risky tack for an outside rabble rouser who needs to have a well developed sense of paranoia to survive.   In Mesi&#039;s case, it left the door open for Commissioners Ward and Mohr to make political hay with simple accounting and reporting matters which never should have been open to any serious discussion.  The net result will cost a lot of money and effort to remedy.  

A well intentioned guy with as much money and class as Golisano deserves to be advised by someone with better technical skills and more concerned about protecting his patron&#039;s ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Golisano may be the best thing to happen to Western NY in the last several generations.   He is hated by the Partnership/Buffalo Club axis because he actually spends some of his own money on his projects.   Our other business leader pretenders always need a handout of my public money before they will attempt anything.</p>
<p>However, I have to question Golisano&#8217;s seeming total reliance on Pigeon for his political consultation.   There is no question that the work done by the Citizens for Fiscal Integrity PAC was extremely sloppy and often haphazard.   I seriously doubt any criminal intent, but a there were way too many loose ends which never got any follow up.   (People for Accountable Government was better, but not great.)  Seems like Steve was counting on the continued negligence of the State Board of Elections in monitoring and regulating such activities.   This is an extremely risky tack for an outside rabble rouser who needs to have a well developed sense of paranoia to survive.   In Mesi&#8217;s case, it left the door open for Commissioners Ward and Mohr to make political hay with simple accounting and reporting matters which never should have been open to any serious discussion.  The net result will cost a lot of money and effort to remedy.  </p>
<p>A well intentioned guy with as much money and class as Golisano deserves to be advised by someone with better technical skills and more concerned about protecting his patron&#8217;s ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Twixt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2008/10/28/chasing-pigeon-the-bad-reporter/comment-page-1/#comment-3487</link>
		<dc:creator>Twixt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 05:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Hudson, take a time out!
There&#039;s no doubt about whose trunk that is!
And &quot;odds are&quot; 2 to 1 that he&#039;s reading this.

The last time I saw him he was paying the kids at Delta Sonic some extra money to clean his trunk.
He told them he hit a deer.

I&#039;m sure he&#039;ll be buying your book...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Hudson, take a time out!<br />
There&#8217;s no doubt about whose trunk that is!<br />
And &#8220;odds are&#8221; 2 to 1 that he&#8217;s reading this.</p>
<p>The last time I saw him he was paying the kids at Delta Sonic some extra money to clean his trunk.<br />
He told them he hit a deer.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;ll be buying your book&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mike hudson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2008/10/28/chasing-pigeon-the-bad-reporter/comment-page-1/#comment-3485</link>
		<dc:creator>mike hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey geoff....the one sided account concerning what i said at the stockholders meeting leads me to believe what i do about your source, who was at the meeting and is employed by your publication.

i wrote two stories about hoyt and one about mesi, who has been a friend of the paper since we started and has appeared numerous times on the cover of the niagara falls reporter.

our former publisher is going to be criminally charged in this case, yet somehow i am being portrayed as the bad guy by you, mccarthy and alan bedenko at buffalo pundit. this doesn&#039;t really make any sense to me, and leads me to question the motivation behind the attacks.

i can tell you that to golisano has appeared on the cover of the reporter exactly one time, and the story was a puff piece staba did that i objected to. staba enjoyed sitting in golisano&#039;s box at sabres games, if i recall correctly. i can also tell you that i did everything i could to help staba following his two drunk driving arrests while working as an independent contractor for the paper, and even sent a falls building contractor up to buffalo to put in a new sewer line at his dilapidated house.

the buffalo news has now printed as many stories attempting to discredit me as i printed containg the email texts between sam hoyt and the young broad he was banging in albany. if they do one more, they will have done as many as i wrote about hoyt and mesi combined.

it kind upsets the mrs., but if the only thing a hipster such as yourself living in a hip town like buffalo can find to write about is me, knock yourself out.

by the way, my new book MOB BOSS: A BIOGRAPHY IN BLOOD will hit the bookstores on November 7. It is the first book-length account of stefano magaddino and the rise and fall of the buffalo mob from the 1920s through the 1980s, and costs just $19.95!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey geoff&#8230;.the one sided account concerning what i said at the stockholders meeting leads me to believe what i do about your source, who was at the meeting and is employed by your publication.</p>
<p>i wrote two stories about hoyt and one about mesi, who has been a friend of the paper since we started and has appeared numerous times on the cover of the niagara falls reporter.</p>
<p>our former publisher is going to be criminally charged in this case, yet somehow i am being portrayed as the bad guy by you, mccarthy and alan bedenko at buffalo pundit. this doesn&#8217;t really make any sense to me, and leads me to question the motivation behind the attacks.</p>
<p>i can tell you that to golisano has appeared on the cover of the reporter exactly one time, and the story was a puff piece staba did that i objected to. staba enjoyed sitting in golisano&#8217;s box at sabres games, if i recall correctly. i can also tell you that i did everything i could to help staba following his two drunk driving arrests while working as an independent contractor for the paper, and even sent a falls building contractor up to buffalo to put in a new sewer line at his dilapidated house.</p>
<p>the buffalo news has now printed as many stories attempting to discredit me as i printed containg the email texts between sam hoyt and the young broad he was banging in albany. if they do one more, they will have done as many as i wrote about hoyt and mesi combined.</p>
<p>it kind upsets the mrs., but if the only thing a hipster such as yourself living in a hip town like buffalo can find to write about is me, knock yourself out.</p>
<p>by the way, my new book MOB BOSS: A BIOGRAPHY IN BLOOD will hit the bookstores on November 7. It is the first book-length account of stefano magaddino and the rise and fall of the buffalo mob from the 1920s through the 1980s, and costs just $19.95!</p>
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