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		<title>By: Pomeroy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2008/10/24/chasing-pigeon-the-gop-joins-the-chase/comment-page-1/#comment-3476</link>
		<dc:creator>Pomeroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The voters are what they are.
Golisano thinks they are a bunch of dumb pucks.
That&#039;s why he believes he can pay them off with Pigeon Droppings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The voters are what they are.<br />
Golisano thinks they are a bunch of dumb pucks.<br />
That&#8217;s why he believes he can pay them off with Pigeon Droppings.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Bumble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Bumble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it that simple?
Whoever has the money wins?
That&#039;s not saying much for the voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it that simple?<br />
Whoever has the money wins?<br />
That&#8217;s not saying much for the voters.</p>
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		<title>By: Pomeroy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pomeroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Pete, I did not know that.
That would account for her temperment.
Her brother-in-law gets the last laugh.

No wonder she lives in Kenmore and her husband lives in Amherst.

I&#039;d sure hate to be her fifth husband!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Pete, I did not know that.<br />
That would account for her temperment.<br />
Her brother-in-law gets the last laugh.</p>
<p>No wonder she lives in Kenmore and her husband lives in Amherst.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d sure hate to be her fifth husband!</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pomeroy, in the 61st, the Senate Republicans had Iannello leading by double digits before the over 300K Pigeon/Golisano spent in the final 2 weeks on Mesi&#039;s behalf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pomeroy, in the 61st, the Senate Republicans had Iannello leading by double digits before the over 300K Pigeon/Golisano spent in the final 2 weeks on Mesi&#8217;s behalf.</p>
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		<title>By: Pomeroy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pomeroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The funniest part about all of Pigeon&#039;s needless charades is that he wasn&#039;t able to effect the outcome of a single race.
The final results ignored Pigeon&#039;s illegal activities an so did the voters.
Hoyt overwhelmed him by a wide margin and Mesi was expected to win his primary.

However, there is always a Yin to this much Yang.
Pigeon made Mohr and Ward along with the District Attorney&#039;s Office look like Abbott and Costello meet Frank-en-Frank (1948)!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbott_and_Costello_Meet_Frankenstein</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funniest part about all of Pigeon&#8217;s needless charades is that he wasn&#8217;t able to effect the outcome of a single race.<br />
The final results ignored Pigeon&#8217;s illegal activities an so did the voters.<br />
Hoyt overwhelmed him by a wide margin and Mesi was expected to win his primary.</p>
<p>However, there is always a Yin to this much Yang.<br />
Pigeon made Mohr and Ward along with the District Attorney&#8217;s Office look like Abbott and Costello meet Frank-en-Frank (1948)!</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbott_and_Costello_Meet_Frankenstein" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbott_and_Costello_Meet_Frankenstein</a></p>
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		<title>By: Twixt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twixt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said BetterBflo!

You are exactly correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said BetterBflo!</p>
<p>You are exactly correct.</p>
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		<title>By: betterbflo</title>
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		<dc:creator>betterbflo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 04:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fear this is one of those stinky problems that will go on stinking. Neither BOE side has a real interest in policing one another. This is pre-election banter. Once the election is over they will go back to the old deal of ignoring the other guys dirty laundry lest he start paying too close attention to yours.

We have 2 foxes guarding the hens. Neither side is interested in any reform - all sides very interested in power - keeping the power they have and getting more. Power in a dying town like Buffalo means jobs - public union patronage jobs and supporting bad public works projects that do no long term good for the region but do give certain unions temporary jobs.

If we had real reform here in western new york or in the state then we might have a successful economy. If we had a better economy people might start moving here. And if that happened it would dilute the power of the old guard and they sure don&#039;t want that. They want things to stay just as they are. They all like being the big fish in our small and shrinking pond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fear this is one of those stinky problems that will go on stinking. Neither BOE side has a real interest in policing one another. This is pre-election banter. Once the election is over they will go back to the old deal of ignoring the other guys dirty laundry lest he start paying too close attention to yours.</p>
<p>We have 2 foxes guarding the hens. Neither side is interested in any reform &#8211; all sides very interested in power &#8211; keeping the power they have and getting more. Power in a dying town like Buffalo means jobs &#8211; public union patronage jobs and supporting bad public works projects that do no long term good for the region but do give certain unions temporary jobs.</p>
<p>If we had real reform here in western new york or in the state then we might have a successful economy. If we had a better economy people might start moving here. And if that happened it would dilute the power of the old guard and they sure don&#8217;t want that. They want things to stay just as they are. They all like being the big fish in our small and shrinking pond.</p>
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		<title>By: Pomeroy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pomeroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who cares if a bartender&#039;s wife gave money to a politician.

What is important is that there is now proof of a deliberate and premeditated crime: 
&quot;Unfortunately for Pigeon, it seems Tom Golisano is not so careless with his checks. According to Mohr’s complaint, Golisano signed a Responsible New York check and noted on the memo line that it paid for consulting fees in the 61st District. An unauthorized committee such as Responsible New York may purchase advertising for a candidate it supports, but it may not directly purchase services for that candidate. It may not pay a consultant to the candidate. That would constitute coordination.&quot;

There is the conscionable proof! 

Goloisano pretends to be unaware of what everyone is telling him, notes the memo line as a defenseable excuse, and prepares to throw Pigeon &quot;under the bus if the going gets rough!&quot;

After watching the Mayor; Golisano went out and bought himself a Casey.
George Hearst bought Francis Wolcott (1876) in &quot;Deadwood.&quot;
If you follow the series; the next one they&#039;ll try buying is the District Attorney.

Our areas problems are not rocket science.
They can be handled surely and swiftly.

Does anybody have Al Swearengen&#039;s phone number?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares if a bartender&#8217;s wife gave money to a politician.</p>
<p>What is important is that there is now proof of a deliberate and premeditated crime:<br />
&#8220;Unfortunately for Pigeon, it seems Tom Golisano is not so careless with his checks. According to Mohr’s complaint, Golisano signed a Responsible New York check and noted on the memo line that it paid for consulting fees in the 61st District. An unauthorized committee such as Responsible New York may purchase advertising for a candidate it supports, but it may not directly purchase services for that candidate. It may not pay a consultant to the candidate. That would constitute coordination.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is the conscionable proof! </p>
<p>Goloisano pretends to be unaware of what everyone is telling him, notes the memo line as a defenseable excuse, and prepares to throw Pigeon &#8220;under the bus if the going gets rough!&#8221;</p>
<p>After watching the Mayor; Golisano went out and bought himself a Casey.<br />
George Hearst bought Francis Wolcott (1876) in &#8220;Deadwood.&#8221;<br />
If you follow the series; the next one they&#8217;ll try buying is the District Attorney.</p>
<p>Our areas problems are not rocket science.<br />
They can be handled surely and swiftly.</p>
<p>Does anybody have Al Swearengen&#8217;s phone number?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Bumble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Bumble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter Reese would make the perfect mixologist!

His Ingredients:
One Part Lawyer
One Part Psychologist
One Part Comedian (Top Shelf)

Always stirred; never shaken!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter Reese would make the perfect mixologist!</p>
<p>His Ingredients:<br />
One Part Lawyer<br />
One Part Psychologist<br />
One Part Comedian (Top Shelf)</p>
<p>Always stirred; never shaken!</p>
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		<title>By: Twixt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twixt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 05:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter Reese,

Don&#039;t you recognize Murphy&#039;s Second Law; no matter what happens &quot;Some Guy&quot; will always complain.

Just one question:
If you were to bartend at a fund raiser; would the establishment call your work area a Reese&#039;s Bar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter Reese,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you recognize Murphy&#8217;s Second Law; no matter what happens &#8220;Some Guy&#8221; will always complain.</p>
<p>Just one question:<br />
If you were to bartend at a fund raiser; would the establishment call your work area a Reese&#8217;s Bar?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter A Reese</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter A Reese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear &quot;Some Guy&quot;:

Too bad you don&#039;t have the guts to post under your own name.

I can&#039;t find any contribution from Ellen to any of Pidgeon&#039;s committees or &quot;illegal&quot; campaigns.   BTW, our contributions usually come from our joint account and only get listed under Ellen if she signs the check (as per State BoE rules).

I did attend Pidgeon&#039;s CFI fund raiser at the Chop House on 8/21/08.  It was a great party and was attended by numerous local hacks, many of whom I haven&#039;t seen in years.   We don&#039;t apologize for who we support with our money.   We earned it all.

And we have the guts to sign our checks with our real names.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear &#8220;Some Guy&#8221;:</p>
<p>Too bad you don&#8217;t have the guts to post under your own name.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t find any contribution from Ellen to any of Pidgeon&#8217;s committees or &#8220;illegal&#8221; campaigns.   BTW, our contributions usually come from our joint account and only get listed under Ellen if she signs the check (as per State BoE rules).</p>
<p>I did attend Pidgeon&#8217;s CFI fund raiser at the Chop House on 8/21/08.  It was a great party and was attended by numerous local hacks, many of whom I haven&#8217;t seen in years.   We don&#8217;t apologize for who we support with our money.   We earned it all.</p>
<p>And we have the guts to sign our checks with our real names.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh oh, Peter Reese is trying to play election lawyer again, how did that work out for Kathy Konst?

In Mohr v. Schroeder, the Appellate division ruled that an investigation takes majority vote. However, once an investigation is open, commissioners have the power to unilaterally issue subpoenas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh oh, Peter Reese is trying to play election lawyer again, how did that work out for Kathy Konst?</p>
<p>In Mohr v. Schroeder, the Appellate division ruled that an investigation takes majority vote. However, once an investigation is open, commissioners have the power to unilaterally issue subpoenas.</p>
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		<title>By: Pomeroy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pomeroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ralph Mohr should have begun investigating months ago.
While Mohr was enjoying watching Lenihan and Pigeon battle it out in the Mesi Primary, he fell asleep at the wheel.

Now you have a situation where today&#039;s Buffalo News reports; &quot;An Erie County elections commissioner says the district attorney’s office should investigate the G. Steven Pigeon - B. Thomas Golisano pipeline delivering thousands of dollars to their favorite candidates. But [Procesutor] Diane LaVallee thinks Frank Clark’s district attorney’s office should recuse itself and refer the matter to a special prosecutor.&quot;

Why?
Because, according to the Buffalo News: 
&quot;A Pigeon-run political action committee, Citizens for Fiscal Integrity, has given Sedita $500; Golisano has given Sedita $5,000; and their mutual friend, Hormoz Mansouri, gave $7,500 to the Sedita campaign fund.&quot;

Also the News reports: 
&quot;Pigeon is the former Erie County Democratic Party chairman who ... has provided strategic guidance to the Sedita campaign.&quot; 

Now Sedita will be put in charge of investigating his campaign contributors?
&quot;What&#039;s wrong with this picture?&quot;

The Buffalo News exposed some well planned criminal developments today.
Everyone should keep an eye on this.
There are 9 full days before the Election Tuesday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph Mohr should have begun investigating months ago.<br />
While Mohr was enjoying watching Lenihan and Pigeon battle it out in the Mesi Primary, he fell asleep at the wheel.</p>
<p>Now you have a situation where today&#8217;s Buffalo News reports; &#8220;An Erie County elections commissioner says the district attorney’s office should investigate the G. Steven Pigeon &#8211; B. Thomas Golisano pipeline delivering thousands of dollars to their favorite candidates. But [Procesutor] Diane LaVallee thinks Frank Clark’s district attorney’s office should recuse itself and refer the matter to a special prosecutor.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why?<br />
Because, according to the Buffalo News:<br />
&#8220;A Pigeon-run political action committee, Citizens for Fiscal Integrity, has given Sedita $500; Golisano has given Sedita $5,000; and their mutual friend, Hormoz Mansouri, gave $7,500 to the Sedita campaign fund.&#8221;</p>
<p>Also the News reports:<br />
&#8220;Pigeon is the former Erie County Democratic Party chairman who &#8230; has provided strategic guidance to the Sedita campaign.&#8221; </p>
<p>Now Sedita will be put in charge of investigating his campaign contributors?<br />
&#8220;What&#8217;s wrong with this picture?&#8221;</p>
<p>The Buffalo News exposed some well planned criminal developments today.<br />
Everyone should keep an eye on this.<br />
There are 9 full days before the Election Tuesday.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Bumble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Bumble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It should be noted that the Erie County Board of Elections can only act on the unanimous consent of both Commissioners Mohr and Ward (Election Law 3-212(2)requires majority vote for any action).&quot;

Erie County should have at least a third member in it&#039;s Board of Elections.
An Independent one! (As v. an Independence one).

The Common Councils have odd numbers; Buffalo has 9 the County Legislature has 15, West Seneca had 5 and will reduce to 3, etc.
Having an odd number reduces tie votes.
As it stands now, 2 political operatives; one Democrat and one Republican, are making decisions for other parties, ie. the Conservative and Independence Parties, etc.

We have a majority of odd members; we should also have a majority of odd numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It should be noted that the Erie County Board of Elections can only act on the unanimous consent of both Commissioners Mohr and Ward (Election Law 3-212(2)requires majority vote for any action).&#8221;</p>
<p>Erie County should have at least a third member in it&#8217;s Board of Elections.<br />
An Independent one! (As v. an Independence one).</p>
<p>The Common Councils have odd numbers; Buffalo has 9 the County Legislature has 15, West Seneca had 5 and will reduce to 3, etc.<br />
Having an odd number reduces tie votes.<br />
As it stands now, 2 political operatives; one Democrat and one Republican, are making decisions for other parties, ie. the Conservative and Independence Parties, etc.</p>
<p>We have a majority of odd members; we should also have a majority of odd numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: Twixt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twixt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 04:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good for Mrs. Reese.
It&#039;s great to see the Average Joe and the Average Jane get involved.
It&#039;s also good to see the reporting system working well.

I&#039;ll guess that Mrs. Reese didn&#039;t try to hide anything.
And I&#039;ll go even farther out on a limb and guess her contribution was less than 5 million.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for Mrs. Reese.<br />
It&#8217;s great to see the Average Joe and the Average Jane get involved.<br />
It&#8217;s also good to see the reporting system working well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll guess that Mrs. Reese didn&#8217;t try to hide anything.<br />
And I&#8217;ll go even farther out on a limb and guess her contribution was less than 5 million.</p>
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