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	<title>Comments on: Antoine Thompson&#8217;s Economic Roundtable</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: WNYMind</title>
		<link>http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2008/07/22/antoine-thompsons-economic-roundtable/#comment-2708</link>
		<dc:creator>WNYMind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In principle, I do not oppose the ethanol plant in South Buffalo. There are oil refineries in cities accross the US. If they are operated with OSHA and public safety standards in place, they don't explode. However, there are real risks with any refinery or ethanol plant and people living near them should be protected. Especially from pollution growing out of normal operations.

If you recall, a few weeks ago a pool supply company burned down on the west side of Buffalo. The Buffalo Fire Department did not handle that fire well, from a public safety standpoint (or a fire fighter safety standpoint). That should have been the wakeup call for Buffalo to make sure that fire fighters were trained and protected properly, and that a public notice system is put in place for industrial accidents. It is the city's responsibility to have an emergency plan in place.

One other thing, the use the term "blast radius" is a little inaccurate in the case of a ethanol plant. That would be a radius for a chemical cloud and vapors, if an ethanol plant ever burned or blew up, it wouldn't create a 5 mile crator, fire ball, or anything else you infer. Fire damage would be contained on site, the real risk to the public would be from chemical vapors and toxic smoke. The more likely risk would come from groundwater contamination (ala Love Canal), so site planning is key to address these risks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In principle, I do not oppose the ethanol plant in South Buffalo. There are oil refineries in cities accross the US. If they are operated with OSHA and public safety standards in place, they don&#8217;t explode. However, there are real risks with any refinery or ethanol plant and people living near them should be protected. Especially from pollution growing out of normal operations.</p>
<p>If you recall, a few weeks ago a pool supply company burned down on the west side of Buffalo. The Buffalo Fire Department did not handle that fire well, from a public safety standpoint (or a fire fighter safety standpoint). That should have been the wakeup call for Buffalo to make sure that fire fighters were trained and protected properly, and that a public notice system is put in place for industrial accidents. It is the city&#8217;s responsibility to have an emergency plan in place.</p>
<p>One other thing, the use the term &#8220;blast radius&#8221; is a little inaccurate in the case of a ethanol plant. That would be a radius for a chemical cloud and vapors, if an ethanol plant ever burned or blew up, it wouldn&#8217;t create a 5 mile crator, fire ball, or anything else you infer. Fire damage would be contained on site, the real risk to the public would be from chemical vapors and toxic smoke. The more likely risk would come from groundwater contamination (ala Love Canal), so site planning is key to address these risks.</p>
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		<title>By: Pomeroy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2008/07/22/antoine-thompsons-economic-roundtable/#comment-2706</link>
		<dc:creator>Pomeroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WNYMind, I suppose you would also find fault with the ethanol plant the French are building in South Buffalo.
World-wide it is the only ethanol plant built in a city.
And some people in South Buffalo are complaining just because it has a blast radius of 5 miles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WNYMind, I suppose you would also find fault with the ethanol plant the French are building in South Buffalo.<br />
World-wide it is the only ethanol plant built in a city.<br />
And some people in South Buffalo are complaining just because it has a blast radius of 5 miles.</p>
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		<title>By: WNYMind</title>
		<link>http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2008/07/22/antoine-thompsons-economic-roundtable/#comment-2701</link>
		<dc:creator>WNYMind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep in mind that Thompson was hand picked by Brown to fill his vacant State Senate Seat. Thompson is a good elected official). But, to contrast him with the Mayor (also a goo enough guy despite having a job nobody has been successful with in over 50 years) is a joke. 

The other joke is the who premise of the economic roundtable. To have the NYC Partnership come and discuss their model is a waste of time and giving false hope to people in Buffalo. There is no financial or nonprofit sector in Buffalo large enough to impact the economic future of the city. 

We have a few struggling local businesses and some national corporations that are in the last stages of disinvesting in WNY. We also have 1 foundation, Oshie, that is poking around in the soil for some ideas and another, Wendt, that is totally currupt and detrimental to the community. 

Buffalo needs a more radical approach than some pin money from local business. How many Chinese Auctions can you have? Buffalo needs a big employer to show up and create new jobs. 

Maybe China will come here and build an auto plant or India will come here and build a chemical plant. That is Buffalo's only hope. Some developing country will find Buffalo very attractive. We have a government that can easily be bought. A local population that is beaten down and unwilling to challenge the status quo. And, a small and insignificant local elite that will marvel at any trinket dangles in front of them. Yes, China and India can come to WNY and buy the place and the people in a heart beat. It would be the easiest conquest in world history. They could come in and dominate WNY and the US government would no longer have to answer endless gripes.

If we are really lucky a country like Brazil would come and buy WNY. Then they could educate us about democratic governance and social justice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep in mind that Thompson was hand picked by Brown to fill his vacant State Senate Seat. Thompson is a good elected official). But, to contrast him with the Mayor (also a goo enough guy despite having a job nobody has been successful with in over 50 years) is a joke. </p>
<p>The other joke is the who premise of the economic roundtable. To have the NYC Partnership come and discuss their model is a waste of time and giving false hope to people in Buffalo. There is no financial or nonprofit sector in Buffalo large enough to impact the economic future of the city. </p>
<p>We have a few struggling local businesses and some national corporations that are in the last stages of disinvesting in WNY. We also have 1 foundation, Oshie, that is poking around in the soil for some ideas and another, Wendt, that is totally currupt and detrimental to the community. </p>
<p>Buffalo needs a more radical approach than some pin money from local business. How many Chinese Auctions can you have? Buffalo needs a big employer to show up and create new jobs. </p>
<p>Maybe China will come here and build an auto plant or India will come here and build a chemical plant. That is Buffalo&#8217;s only hope. Some developing country will find Buffalo very attractive. We have a government that can easily be bought. A local population that is beaten down and unwilling to challenge the status quo. And, a small and insignificant local elite that will marvel at any trinket dangles in front of them. Yes, China and India can come to WNY and buy the place and the people in a heart beat. It would be the easiest conquest in world history. They could come in and dominate WNY and the US government would no longer have to answer endless gripes.</p>
<p>If we are really lucky a country like Brazil would come and buy WNY. Then they could educate us about democratic governance and social justice.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Bumble</title>
		<link>http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2008/07/22/antoine-thompsons-economic-roundtable/#comment-2700</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Bumble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senator Thompson is definitely the realist of the two,
but he will have to contend with the "Three Men in a Room" (Artvoice 09/07/06 v5n36).
At least we can count on Thompson to concern himself with the Average Joe
instead of totally focused on replacing Louise Slaughter in Congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senator Thompson is definitely the realist of the two,<br />
but he will have to contend with the &#8220;Three Men in a Room&#8221; (Artvoice 09/07/06 v5n36).<br />
At least we can count on Thompson to concern himself with the Average Joe<br />
instead of totally focused on replacing Louise Slaughter in Congress.</p>
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		<title>By: Pomeroy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2008/07/22/antoine-thompsons-economic-roundtable/#comment-2699</link>
		<dc:creator>Pomeroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 21:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senator Thompson is a realist, whereas his predecessor, Byron Brown, is a charalton.
Senator Thompson is actively searching for alternatives to stimulate the regional economy.
Whereas Byron Brown attempted to tell the press that "Buffalo’s Renaissance is in Full Swing!" with 4.5 billion in investments.
What a joke!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senator Thompson is a realist, whereas his predecessor, Byron Brown, is a charalton.<br />
Senator Thompson is actively searching for alternatives to stimulate the regional economy.<br />
Whereas Byron Brown attempted to tell the press that &#8220;Buffalo’s Renaissance is in Full Swing!&#8221; with 4.5 billion in investments.<br />
What a joke!</p>
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