Comments on: Considering Obama’s Loss in Pennsylvania http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2008/04/23/considering-obamas-loss-in-pennsylvania/ News & Commentary from the Artvoice Editorial staff Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:04:18 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: jamie moses http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2008/04/23/considering-obamas-loss-in-pennsylvania/comment-page-1/#comment-312 jamie moses Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:04:10 +0000 http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/?p=403#comment-312 Then there is the question of super-delagates. The Obama camp loudly insists that because Obama won a this-or-that state that those super-delagates should be obligated to follow the will of the people and pledge to Obama. However, it is interesting to point out that Clinton won Massachusetts overwhelmingly and yet Ted Kennedy and John Kerry, both super-delegates, have publicly pledged to Obama. And both have appeared with Obama on the campaign trail. If Obama really believes the will of the people should rule then he why is he embracing two famous pols who are going against the will of their consituents? Then there is the question of super-delagates. The Obama camp loudly insists that because Obama won a this-or-that state that those super-delagates should be obligated to follow the will of the people and pledge to Obama. However, it is interesting to point out that Clinton won Massachusetts overwhelmingly and yet Ted Kennedy and John Kerry, both super-delegates, have publicly pledged to Obama. And both have appeared with Obama on the campaign trail. If Obama really believes the will of the people should rule then he why is he embracing two famous pols who are going against the will of their consituents?

]]> By: Deward Bowles http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2008/04/23/considering-obamas-loss-in-pennsylvania/comment-page-1/#comment-301 Deward Bowles Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:56:26 +0000 http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/?p=403#comment-301 100s of thousands of average Americans are voting right now by sending money to Senator Obama in donations of 200 dollars are less and they are all not just Democrats nor Republicans. Let's look at the Federal Election Commission data. http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/donordems.asp?filter=A&sortby=S Senator Clinton's campaign for example is 75% funded by donations of 2,300 or 4,600 dollars. http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/donordems.asp?filter=A&sortby=X http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/donordems.asp?filter=A&sortby=P Senator Clinton and Senator McCain are primarily being funded by wealthy individuals and special interest groups (lobbyist). Here is a graph that shows individual contributions from people who work for lobbyist or as lobbyist. http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?cycle=2008 It takes a lot of small donations of 200 dollars or less to raise two and three times the money the other candidates are receiving for their campaigns. If how a campaign is run is any indication of how the candidate will run the country the chose is fairly clear. Both Senator McCain's and Senator Clinton's campaigns have periodically gone broke and in to debt having to borrow money to stay afloat. The politics of fear are dead, some simply do not realize it yet. My only fear is what the candidates will do for the people who financed their campaign once they take office. Senator Clinton "won" PA however it has done little to dent Senator Obama's lead. The next two contests will be either close or she will lose significantly, there is simply not enough road left for her to get to the nomination. One of two things will happen in my opinion. 1) Senator Clinton will lose the next two contests run out of money (and the ability to borrow money) and be forced to concede. 2) Senator Clinton somehow continues to hang in there until the convention and cause a "brokered" convention (Al Gore?). Senator Clinton should have dropped out gracefully a long time ago. As for McCain, once the spot light hits him he will become unelectable in my opinion (Hagee and the others, savings and loan scandal, new scandals regarding favoritism, campaign exposed as financed mostly by lobbyist, gaffs on the economy and war, etc.). 100s of thousands of average Americans are voting right now by sending money to Senator Obama in donations of 200 dollars are less and they are all not just Democrats nor Republicans. Let’s look at the Federal Election Commission data.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/donordems.asp?filter=A&sortby=S

Senator Clinton’s campaign for example is 75% funded by donations of 2,300 or 4,600 dollars.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/donordems.asp?filter=A&sortby=X

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/donordems.asp?filter=A&sortby=P

Senator Clinton and Senator McCain are primarily being funded by wealthy individuals and special interest groups (lobbyist). Here is a graph that shows individual contributions from people who work for lobbyist or as lobbyist.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp?cycle=2008

It takes a lot of small donations of 200 dollars or less to raise two and three times the money the other candidates are receiving for their campaigns. If how a campaign is run is any indication of how the candidate will run the country the chose is fairly clear. Both Senator McCain’s and Senator Clinton’s campaigns have periodically gone broke and in to debt having to borrow money to stay afloat.

The politics of fear are dead, some simply do not realize it yet.

My only fear is what the candidates will do for the people who financed their campaign once they take office.

Senator Clinton “won” PA however it has done little to dent Senator Obama’s lead. The next two contests will be either close or she will lose significantly, there is simply not enough road left for her to get to the nomination.

One of two things will happen in my opinion.

1) Senator Clinton will lose the next two contests run out of money (and the ability to borrow money) and be forced to concede.

2) Senator Clinton somehow continues to hang in there until the convention and cause a “brokered” convention (Al Gore?).

Senator Clinton should have dropped out gracefully a long time ago. As for McCain, once the spot light hits him he will become unelectable in my opinion (Hagee and the others, savings and loan scandal, new scandals regarding favoritism, campaign exposed as financed mostly by lobbyist, gaffs on the economy and war, etc.).

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